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i should set up a business around it, mass how that davies. he has a master's degree in business, a family of two. the government cracks down on his business and now he faces up to 10 years in prison, because the feds came after him. here's a report about it. >> sometimes the feds send a warning letter first as they did with these two marijuana dispensaries in sacramento. sometimes, they're not so poll light. the same thing happened monday at the dispensary in sacramento. >> they took all our stuff seized everything, took all our cash and product and stuff and that's basically it. >> those two raised appear to be connected to the discovery of a large marijuana growing operation two weeks ago in this stock to know warehouse. public records show corporate paperwork for the medicine dispensary goes to matthew davies, a property manager in tockton. >> cenk: in public, president
obama says all the right things, oh, on the issue of marijuana weaver got bigger fish to fry. we're not going to spend federal resources and in reality and action, he has broken a record in how many dispensaries they've done in his first turn. he head of the d.e.a. is pushing all the raised. let me me show you some bigger numbers, marijuana arrests in 2011 alone. 750,000 for marijuana about half of the arrests for just marijuana possession. that's one marijuana arrest every 42 seconds. oh, i got bigger fish to fry except by the way, president obama, president bush, president clinton, all smoked marijuana but are willing to put 750,000 people a year in jail for doing the same exact thing they did they just didn't get busted on.
how about prosecuting pot? do you know that it costs us $10,400 every time somebody is arrested. if you're conservative, shouldn't you be outraged by that that we're wasting that kind of money. we waste $7 billion annually on this nonsense, understooding 800 fistula million dollars in courts costs and $3.1 billion in prison costs. it's important to get really dangerous criminals like matthew davies. take a look of this dangerous dangerous man with his family. the biggest drug launderers in the world are the criminals as h.s.b.c., one of the largest banks in the world. our justice democratic said oh, sorry, they're too big to jail. we can't put them in prison, even though they launder mexican drug cartel money. and they put matthew davies in
prison. lets bring in matthew's wife and steve raglan is his attorney. thank you for joining us, we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> first of all molly how did this idea for the business start and when you guys started it or matthew started it, did you guys have any sense of the danger involved, that the federal government would be this unreasonable when it came to state's rights? >> well, initially, we had some concerns. because we had concerns, we went to different attorneys we went to people we thought were the foremost experts on the cubject in california, and after meeting with them, we felt so secure. we felt that it was legal in california, we were going to stay within the state guidelines, follow all the laws, and these attorneys advised us that as long as we did that, we would be safe, and of course, because of what the obama administration said, there would be no problem so in the end my husband went forward because we
felt so secure in the fact that this was a legal business and a business of helping people. >> steve did they offer a plea here? >> well, what they've told matt right now they charged him with counts to care a five year mandatory minute mull. even if the judge believes that it's unjust to send matt to prison for a day, he will have no discretion but to give him five years in federal prison. they told him you must plead guilty to those charges and accept seven years in prison, or we'll bring charges with a 10 year mandatory minimum. that's the plea offer right now. we're hoping that through this interview, through people going to keepmatt, de.org, we can get them to reconsider the case and to realize that justice is not done by sending matt to prison for a day. >> cenk: steve now look, if you go to court and you say look, this is perfectly legal in the state of california and the
prosecutor says i don't care, this is a federal court and it's not legal federally are you out of luck? how do you make an argument against that? >> well, if we have to get to that point, we will. some is unchartered territory somewhat. the point is that candidate obama and president obama's administration since he was elected have given clear signals to people that they're not going after people who comply with state law with regard to medical marijuana, people like mat davies. they are going after people doing it illegally. matt had a payroll processing company to handle things so that taxes were withheld, everything was on the up and up. he submitted a business permit to the city of sacramento. that's the sort of people that the obama justice department said they are not going to go after. >> cenk: molly, how many kids do you have? >> two. >> cenk: hold are they? >> an 18-month-old daughter and 3-year-old daughter. >> cenk: what you are going to do if matt goes to jail for
seven years. >> that's not going to be easy. >> cenk: how are you going to make a living? how are you going to support the kids? >> that's a good question. i don't know the answer to that now. >> cenk: can you believe your government is doing this to you even though what you guys are doing are perfectly legal in your own state. >> well, it's shocking. you know, from the beginning from the beginning, when, you know, there was first a search warrant served, you know, on a warehouse, when a search warrant was served on our home, it was shocking all the way through but each time i thought that's ok, they're do an investigation and see that we're within state guidelines and followed the laws and there would be no problem. even when my husband was indicted, i thought that's ok, they'll do an investigation and they'll see that he's completely compliant with the state of california. that's where i don't understand what the disconnect is between what the obama administration says and what's actually
happening to us. >> cenk: steve when you talk to the prosecutors, do you say hey wait a minute, are you guys really going to send this family man, this businessman to jail for five years, 10 years when what he was doing is legal? are they a blank wall, we get a notch in our belt? what's their reaction at human beings? >> i don't know what their personal reaction is. we wrote a letter to the u.s. attorney benjamin wagner and said let's talk about this, sit down and talk with us, come and meet us and talk to us. we got a rebuff from his office. we wrote a letter to attorney general holder asking him to reconsider this. you talk about a notch on the wall it's been said for decades that a prosecutor's job is not to rack up wins, but to do justice. i know that if attorney general holder if benjamin wagner sat
down with matt and molly there's no way they can believe personally that justice is done by sending this good man to prison. >> cenk: all right. >> and in fact, it undermines legitimate sources of medical marijuana in california. >> cenk: they're embarrassed. it's tough to look molly in the face and say i'm going to send your husband to jail for five to 10 years because i want an extra notch in my belt or we're liars and we said we wouldn't prosecute these people and we are prosecuting them and we're not progressives and we're even more right wing than the bush administration when it comes to this. of course, they can't meet you face-to-face, because they're a national embarrassment. >> that's why we hope people go to keepmatt, free.org and sign the petition. >> cenk: keepmattfree.org.
thank you. >> thank you. >> cenk: are congressman now lobbying to get the best lobbying jobs? they're angling. they get paid so much! we'll tell you when we come back. >> what do you plan to do after you retire? >> have a this monday morning current tv presents special coverage of the presidential inauguration. the circumstance & the inside analysis. the presidential inauguration this monday morning at 10 eastern only on current tv. but when joint pain and stiffness from psoriatic arthritis hit even the smallest things became difficult. i finally understood what serious joint pain is like. i talked to my rheumatologist and he prescribed enbrel. enbrel can help relieve pain, stiffness, and stop joint damage. because enbrel, etanercept suppresses your immune system, it may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events including infections tuberculosis
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to get the lobbyist jobs, but you're still negotiating things with the fiscal cliff, et cetera. >> are you planning to become a lobbyist? >> no. >> what will you do after this year? just want to get you on record here. >> you're barking up the wrong tree. >> what do you plan to do after you retire? >> have a better job than you guys have, that's for sure. [ laughter ] >> cenk: have a better job than you, because i'm going to sell out and be a lobbyist. he did and now works for duke energy, a job he took before he stopped being a congressman. what is a congressional salary? $175,000$175,000 a year. they pay their c.e.o. $440,000. the american gaming association pay $1.9 million and the
congressman and senators are really angling for that job because they get to go to vegas all the time, do. what happens in vegas stays in vegas. what happens in d.c. also stays in d.c. the securities industry and financial markets, in other words, the banks. they pay their top guy $2.9 million. my favorite is the fertilizer industry. they pay $400,000. fertilizer, you know what that is right? well the washington folks are really good experts at fertilizer industry. everybody's competing for this job. they are. it's embarrassing, but they're like i'll shovel it. i've been shoveling my whole career. >> the company trying to place these people, trying to match them up said:
>> cenk: let's bring in joe williams here, a great reporter from washington, d.c. to talk about this. joe, is there any sense in washington, you've been covering it for a while now that hey maybe this is a little dirty. we were just guys legislating on this, going over there to lobby our friends on capitol hill to do the bidding of these folks or do they think high five, this is the great evident thing that ever happened and there's no ethical problem at all. >> ethics is in the eye of the beholder. we are witnessing the ritual, like the swallows going back, the nba playoffs in the spring, members of congress who defeat incumbents lobbying for jobs, but now kind of elbowing each other, because there's so much money to be made and this dirty little secret is out in the open
oh or you have them going back like schuler chased down in a parking lot. that is something we heard a lot when he was playing for the redskins so it's not surprising there, but basically people going to these big firms getting a lot of money paid a lot of money to go back and talk to their friends about things that these corporations want. it hasn't been that long dins tom delay basically the poster child for these resolving door relationships was caught and is now doing or at least is sentenced to doing three years in a federal prison for his role in trying to do some influence peddling. >> cenk: isn't that the problem though, in the old days, some of this stuff used to be criminal, now what's legal is much worse than what's illegal. they can take these lobbyist jobs and write the laws before they go into the lobbyist jobs,
influence their friends. it's perfectly legal. in fact, let me ask you do you think that before they leave office they know i'm going to be a lobbyist one day, so the more i vote in favor of industry, the more i might get paid when i get out. >> well, it's probably less direct than that, but certainly these kind of relationships have to be in the minds of a lot of lawmakers going about their daily business as they hear from representatives from duke energy monsanto, different industries in the states that they represent. you have a lot of people who are keeping these relationships in mind, because politics is all about relationships and in washington, money is the lubricant that makes these relationships work. you've got a lot of people keeping these things in mind, but it's very rarery a quit pro quo. it's more like a wink and a nod. we know if we have a good relationship with you if things
aren't going our way as in a income bent, we have a friendly ear to sit down and do business. >> cenk: if you vote against the banks and keep voting against them are you more likely to get that $2.9 million job if you leave or if you keep voting in favor of the bans? >> there is no question about that. you're more likely if you're friendly to the bank's interests on the floor of the legislature. one thing i do want to make a point at is that lobbying is a lot of main changing hands back and forth. there are good lobbyist jobs that are important for things like autism research, stem cell research that got a lot of important legislation passed there, and certain other causes, but those problems, the problems with those are the companies and the industries that fund those lobbying efforts don't pay a lot of money. they don't get a lot of headlines like the ones that
change hands with millions of dollars at stake and those are the ones that typically cause a lot of the ethical problems in congress. lobbying by itself is not a birthy word, but the way it that become a function of our legal system makes it seem all but criminal across the board. >> cenk: thank you so much for joining us. >> cenk: my pleasure. >> cenk: when we come back, we're going to talk about lance armstrong. he apparently did a confessional on oprah. man, this guy you want to talk about a politician lying, talk about a liar. wait until you get a load of lance armstrong. >> do you think it was difficult for him to finally come clean to you? >> yes i thinknknknknknknknknknknknknknknknknknknknknknknknknknknknknknk always outspoken: joy behar. >> on my next show, i'll sit down with the explosive yet reflective, jerry springer and we'll find out which one of these camera guys is a secret baby daddy. >> only on current tv.
>> cenk: sometimes my cynicism is rewarded, that is with lance armstrong. of course he's cheating, of course he's cheating, and finally, he has confessed. anna is here, as well as michael and j.r. you ever more. >> yes this entire drama is unfolding because oprah spoke to article strong. she had an interview with him two and a half hours long. she plans on airing both hours in two different specials, and she says that if, you know, this eye-opening situation and that he's very candid about the experience. there are two reasons he might have come out to admit to this. there is the desire to compete in try and got triathlons, thinking if he
admits maybe i can compete. >> cenk: what a weird thing to come out for. i don't believe that at all. who cares? >> you don't believe him. >> cenk: but this is super strange. the postal service, you were saying but i don't understand that one either. if he admits he did it, he's more likely to be sued and be part of that $30 million lawsuit. >> there's a statute of limitations issues. he can be sued civilly but a lot of his perjury isn't going to hurt him. >> cenk: that's not an incentive to come out and say it. he should have shut up. >> if the statute of limitations is over, that's the incentive. it's probably been really difficult for him to live with. i have zero sympathy for him you understand. >> he's been shutting up for this long. it's not working for him. >> cenk: 50% of the people are always going to stick with the guy. it doesn't matter how much of an
obvious liar he is, they're going to stick with him. now he's lost all of them. >> i think the only plausible explanation is that he does want to compete in try and triathlons again. sure he has $100 million -- >> cenk: you want to run around the block run around the block. >> if someone told you let's say you reported a story incorrectly and got fired the network is like cenk, you're done, you're gone, you would be a mess. can you imagine if you didn't have a platform to speak on? you would lose your mind. >> cenk: i know, but he's doing i like it's not a professional thing, these triathlons. he's not at the top of his game. it's like cenk, otherwise you're not allowed to speak in your basement.
>> just go run around the block jay's version of a triathlon. >> as much as we hearken back to the days of high school football and try to relive that, this is at a high level and are he can prove to people who say he really didn't do all that. there's a lot to prove. this could be a reason. >> cenk: it's too late. it's too late. when you did the tour de france, you were had the height of your game. you cheated and your done. you can run a triathlon later. who gives a damn? >> you're right. >> cenk: here's how he should have gone, i cheated but i got news for you guys, so did everyone else, and i still beat them. >> he's planning on throwing people under the bus. in addition to admitting to doping he's planning on doing a tell-all of all the different people that were involved in this, which i think is super shiesty. >> you're going to get the most
people saying what anna said. >> cenk: i don't know if we should try to squeeze in the berlusconi story. >> they say that he had underage sex with a 17-year-old who he started paying. they say they have a $60,000 payment to this woman known as ruby, but she is a moroccon citizen brought in today. the defense decided not to call her at all. these parties that he had he's got ruby here, who took a $60,000 payment from it and he now says that payment had nothing to do with prostitution, nothing to do with sex, he was helping her start a business new i'm done, but i got to ask. you're the italian expert. guilty or not guilty? [ speaking italian ]
>> cenk: i agree. you know what i think guilty, always guilty. john fugelsang what's coming up on viewpoint? >> i want to remind you in parts of france, he could run on that behavior and win. we've got a fun show, including our new nightly award segment the quickest awards show in the world, presenting the i'm not a racist butt award. nominees include an coulter and bill o'reilly. the f. bomb kentry will be on glenn beck's libertarian comment. you talked about it, but what's left for lance armstrong. he has lied for so long to so many people in so many ways, the only career left seems to be politics. we'll cover that plus muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this monday morning current tv presents special coverage of the presidential inauguration. the circumstance & the inside
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